[Pudge714]

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If J9 is a call here, then what flops are you folding? And how can shoving pf when you're a favorite be worse than checking and folding any flop when you know he's pushing 100% of the time and it's extremely likely he has a worse starting hand?

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I was just thinking this. Against an unknown I think a preflop check is standard because he is more likely to check fold preflop than he is to limp fold preflop. Barring timing out or misclicking Joey is never folding postflop. Basically if I check back preflop it is so I can correctly fold some flops when I gain more information. The problem is I have no idea what Joey's range so I don't know what flops I should be folding if I can fold any of them. There are certain hands where I would need to call on any flop probably any pair and any ace high hand maybe even wider. Those hands are more or less irrelevant. Presumably I should be checking back every hand I can correctly fold at least one flop on.