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Old 11-15-2007, 06:59 PM
AMadison AMadison is offline
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Default Re: Aaargghh - AA on the button and some idiot just shoved on the turn

The preflop raise is a little small IMO also. However, that isn't the question you put out in this hand, so I want to focus on the original question...do you call in this spot?

I think this is a pretty easy and straightforward fold.

We really don't beat much and have no chance to improve (only an Ah really helps us safely). What hands is a villain making this bet with... he's either betting big to protect his hand (a made small flush that he doesn't want you to draw against). Or is betting with a large amount of outs against us (around 13+ with a club draw and some pair/piece of the board).

It is highly unlikely he would bet a pair here without at least having the club...and even the 2c is good enough.

So even when we are ahead now, we can expect to lose 1 in 4. Because we can assume we are losing every time we are behind (due to the in ability to improve), we have to be good 2/3 of the time for this to be a break even bet.

Me personally I think it is more accurate that we are behind 2/3 of the time here as opposed to ahead 2/3 of the time.
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