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Old 11-30-2007, 05:33 PM
hagbard celine hagbard celine is offline
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Default Re: Bubble Situation What Do You Do?????????

lev, first off, I agree with you 100%, that shoving PF here is brutish and playing scared.

I do, however, think that our play needs to be tailored to the stakes, and in a $1 tournament, shoving PF might be the best way to get all the money into the middle with the best hand.

Basically, I wouldn't push because I'm scared of seeing an A on the flop, but because I'm not sure that UTG+1 is limping and then folding this shallow. I don't play this low, but in $5 MTTs I see this type of play a lot from small to medium pairs from players that can't open fold a pair, won't raise cause they're scared and then won't fold to a shove.

On the other hand, all the responses to shove need to be balanced by people explaining that outside of the context of this particular tournament with this buy-in, shoving here is a massive overbet, and is going to lose you value.
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