[Paul Thomson]

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Hand 1: call. you can always call a 2nd barrel or fold to a turn bet. I don't think you're folding a queen to often.

Hand 2: you have the nuts here. Why are you trying to get him to fold. call the flop and raise the turn.

[/ QUOTE ]1. I don't want to call a turn bet and be a station with second pair or bluff(??) raise the turn with a showdownable hand. Once people lead into a raise they do not tend to stop betting. I prefer to win before showdown because I'm stealing a lot of small pots in general. I realize this is opposite of most microstakes players, just the style I prefer. I'm not raising here for a cheap showdown, it's for value. I think my hand is better than his range that leads (I realize his CALLING range probably has me in bad shape) so I don't mind a call and re-evaluating later streets. And I want initiative. If I were stronger, calling is still bad because I want value.

2. Because I raise a lot of garbage I raise a lot of good hands too, since these are more likely to be shown down it helps image. Also, shortstacks rarely lead and fold with anything except air. I miss value by raising if they have air, but whatever.

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1) ok. So let's get this straight. you're raising in the first hand for value. Now you say that it's for value because "my hand is better than the range that he leads for...but i understand that my hand is in bad shape to his calling range". Now you're right that it's in bad shape to his calling range, but more importantly is there even a single hand that he calls your flop raise that is worse than yours? If the answer is "no", then your raise is not for value it's a bluff.

And hten you go on to say that you want to gain initiave. Now let's think about this. Your hand is ahead of the Villain's range...so don't you want him to continue betting his weaker hands? You don't want to take the initiave away from him if he's better worse hands.

2)you say you need to raise in order to balance your image. This is true, but not in this particular case. Since the Villain is short stack and not a regular.

And as far as saying that "short stacks rarely lead and fold". who cares. if they're not folding the flop, they're not folding the turn. so raising once again serves no purpose. you want them to continue with air.

I'm not trying to be a dick. But more or less, in your post you said that you should raise donk bets for FE and for value--and unless you have some sort of ae jones merging going on, then this makes little sense.

I agree that you should raise donk bets alot. But you should do it with air and your strong hands that are somewhat vulnerable or when the stacks are deep and u want to be building a big pot.