wow, that's a random hijack, but okay. rather than go dig up my posts here, I'll give you a link:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/sho...readid=2619669
warning: this thread is on a $10/registration forum - though I think you can read w/o registering - and has like 8 billion replies (in fact, it's one of around half a dozen of those threads) so you're probably not going to care. if you feel like trawling through the whole thing, though, feel free. I know I have a bunch of posts on the subject there.