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Old 11-28-2007, 08:26 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: One of the toughest hands I\'ve played - 200NL

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meh, I'm sure you're right. Just kind of odd that everyone wants to dump this hand so fast on the flop but AA is a quick shove for all of them.

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Your statement about equity vs. hands that beat you is misleading. With AA, there are more hands that you beat, specifically KQ and AQ.

These are only "the hands that beat you (KQ)" (or tie), and excluding Q9 because it's unlikely:


Board: Js 9s Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.213% 56.69% 00.52% 124602 1140.00 { JJ, 99, AQs, KQs, KTs, QJs, J9s, T8s, AQo, KQo }
Hand 1: 42.787% 42.27% 00.52% 92898 1140.00 { AA }


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Board: Js 9s Qd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 70.551% 60.62% 09.93% 19206 3144.50 { JJ, 99, AQs, KQs, KTs, QJs, J9s, T8s, AQo, KQo }
Hand 1: 29.449% 19.52% 09.93% 6185 3144.50 { KcQs }

Clearly, your equity vs. these hands is way higher with AA.

Yes, your equity vs the hands that beat AA is higher when you have KQ, but who cares? Your equity is bad either way vs. those hands and I don't think that should be the deciding factor. Rather, total equity is.
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