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Old 11-26-2007, 07:49 PM
Johnny McEldoo Johnny McEldoo is offline
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Default Re: JJ out of position

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INDEED, the biggest problem is INFORMATION, you have no information, and your line seems so week...

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What good is the information I gain if I am basically committing myself in the process? It feels like I'm just helping him build a big pot if he has a monster and helping him fold if he has crap...I don't understand why this isn't a "win little pots, lose big ones" scenario.

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If you c/r the flop and get shoved on, or if you are able to bet/3bet: how often are you holding the best hand? Or does the value of the play comes from the time he's folding overcards?

I find it difficult to combine the concept of JJ being the effective nuts on a 8843 flop vs a stealing tag on the button, and the concept of not getting called by much worse hands when I c/r flop, b/3b flop or crai on the turn.

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I have the same issue/question. Can someone help us here?
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