[Josem]

here's a chat K䲰䮥n and I had about the t9 decision on the flop and how to use pokerstove:

[10:01] Karpanen2: hi, where do i put stack sizes?
[10:01] auJOZ: you don't
[10:01] auJOZ: it tells you what your equity is
[10:01] auJOZ: then, you look at what you're required to call
[10:01] Karpanen2: ah
[10:01] Karpanen2: i though this was like SNGPT
[10:01] auJOZ: eg, if you're required to put $10 into a pot
[10:01] auJOZ: and it is $30
[10:02] auJOZ: you want more than 25% equity
[10:02] auJOZ: 'cause 10 / ($30 + $10) = 25%
[10:03] auJOZ: in that example
[10:03] auJOZ: your starting stack was $114.25, minus $3 preflop, minus $19.50 on flop
[10:03] auJOZ: so you're calling $91.75 more
[10:03] auJOZ: when you're facing that decision
<snipped K䲰䮥n's bad maths>
[10:06] auJOZ: the pot is $6.50 pf, plus your 19.50 on flop, plus villain's 19.50 on flop, plus 91.75 more (effectively)
[10:06] auJOZ: so, $137.25
[10:07] auJOZ: so, you need more than 91.75 / (137.25 + 91.75) = 91.75/229 = 40% equity
[10:08] auJOZ: your outs are essentially 9 spades and 3 jacks
[10:08] auJOZ: = 12 outs twice
[10:08] auJOZ: which, off the top of my head, is around 45% equity
[10:09] auJOZ: (easy trick: number of outs * 4, rounded down a little, is about equal to your equity on the flop)
[10:09] auJOZ: number of outs * 2 = equity with one card to come
[10:09] Karpanen2: ah nice!
[10:09] auJOZ: of course, if villain is on a flush draw
[10:10] auJOZ: eg, AQss
[10:10] auJOZ: then you lose the flush outs
[10:10] auJOZ: but gain pair outs
[10:10] Karpanen2: so how do i fill in villains hand?
[10:10] auJOZ: i don't have pokerstove here with me
[10:10] auJOZ: but i guess you just type in his estimated range
[10:10] auJOZ: in this case, it's probably easier to do it this way
[10:11] auJOZ: since you're almost certainly behind currently, and you need to hit your outs to win
[10:11] auJOZ: pokerstove is more useful when you have a situation where you might be ahead