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Old 11-26-2007, 06:47 PM
Stonewalled Stonewalled is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: KK flop decision

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If loose/aggro had shoved on the flop, would you call?

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Yeah, I definitely would. I'm not folding an overpair for whats essentially a pot sized bet on anything short of a 789 monotone flop. And even then I probably whine like a bitch and then call.

I really don't see how you can get away from your hand with the pot being what it is on the flop. If you want to leave yourself a chance to get away from the hand (and I am NOT advocating this) you should just call preflop or minraise. Any larger than min reraise that gets called by 3 other players (although I don't know that you could have reasonably expected three callers) leaves you committed in my opinion (on an A free flop that is).

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I agree with all this.

The only reason I posted this is b/c I wondered afterwards whether I should have tried to build a side pot with the loose/aggro other than by pushing. I had position on him, he had shown a propensity to try to steal, and the other 2 guys were virtually all-in. So, I was thinking perhaps I should have cold-called, and allowed him to bluff the turn, or alternatively whether I should have mini-raised him.

I chose to push b/c the pot was large and I wanted to protect my hand -- I wanted as few people with me as possible to lessen the chances of someone drawing out.
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