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Old 11-25-2007, 09:43 AM
JackAll JackAll is offline
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Default Re: Knowing your math. Basic draws.

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#1. We're in the CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], we (200, unknown image) raise to 8 pf. BB (245, you have a few notes/stats but just a typical player with somewhat loose TAG stats) defends his blind. Flop (~17 minus rake) comes A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], checked to us, we bet 12, BB check raises to 32 total. We call. Turn (80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] villain bets 40. What do we do?

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we have 1/5 chance of hitting, so I wouldn't pay more than like 1/4 (1:3) which is $27 or so because he could easily not have 2pr+ and so we won't get paid all that often enough. When he bets $40 I fold despite stack sizes. I also don't like a push on that board.


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#2. We are UTG and pick up AQo, suits irrelevant. We (200, unknown to these players) make it 8, button ("defends his button religiously" but a tag/lag with 245) calls.
Sub Q: If this player 3bets to 25 total, what's our standard play?
Any case, flop (~19) comes T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], we bet 12, villain calls. Turn (43) comes a blank, 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. What's our play? If we check, villain bets 25. What's our play then?

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Can't c/c, so that leaves b/f and c/f. I really hate c/r on this board too. I think *I* have enough FE to make a bet profitable, and we do have quite a few outs. It also balances us out for when we bet with TJ and he pushes, only in that case we call, but here we fold. If we bet/call our whole range or bet/fold with our whole range, we are not balanced. I would just b/f this turn. With a tight image, tag's know better than to mess with me when I bet turn unless they have the goods.

Sub Q: If this player 3bets pf to 25 total, what's our standard play?

depends how much he 3-bets. also depends what we do with QQ+/AK. If he is a light 3-better then treat it same as AK. But in a vacuum, calling sux anus.

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#3. A bad player (140, very loose passive) limps UTG, and we (240) isolate raise 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button to 10 total. BB cold calls, as does the limper. (BB has 383 and is a nit where this cold call is AQ-AT, JJ-22, possibly a little wider range given UTG's presence, but not looser then that). Flop (~30) comes 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], and they check to us. We timebank a little bit contemplating a cbet (validity in checking) but opt to fire away with 23. BB calls, and UTG folds. Ok, lost the bad player, got the good player, terrific. Turn (~76) comes the K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and BB bets 44. What do we do?

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we have just under 1/5 to hit, but some of those are to a flush draw, so we have even less clean outs. So with such a small chance of hitting a call looks terrible here. I prob fold it out to a nit without a read.


Isura says:
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1 - Call.

2 - Check/fold.

3 - Shove.

That's how I'd play it anyways.

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Damn, I'm like the anti-isura. Though I think he has a very different image.
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