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Old 11-22-2007, 12:16 AM
WutRUTryin2Hit WutRUTryin2Hit is offline
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Default Re: i float possible tilty guy and hit, what\'s my river plan here

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so you called a flop raise w/no pair, you turn a pair, bet it like a wuss, and now you're not sure what to do on the river. this tells me you should have folded to the flop raise.

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I bet the turn to get a raise or at least a call from weak hand. You think just potting the turn here is going to get a good results in any way? Maybe. To me, betting big on this turn is basically letting the opponent play perfectly, unless I have a read that he's a big calling station.

As for a river plan, this river isn't a blank, and I'm not going to fold every flop where I don't have a specific plan for when 2 very specific cards (TPTK hits for me, and then flush completes) hit. I mean, you don't see that if the turn is diff, or the river is diff, this hand is insanely easy to play?

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most of the time that turn card doesn't change anything. i mean, he's usually not gonna expect you to be calling flop raises w/overcards.

on the turn, if he has JJ/TT type of hand, he's gonna call a 3/4 pot bet. if he has a flush draw, he will call as well.

our hand still rates to be best at the river, so why not bet and hope he makes a curious call w/a worse hand.

also, betting more on the turn makes shoving this river and getting a call much easier.

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Yeah, I agree on this, in retrospect I do wish I bet more on the turn, although maybe that's results-oriented, I was probably just thinking too much that he was gonna make a move on me on the turn also or something. Meh. I do think I played this hand bad, I ended up checking the river, I just couldn't see what worse hand could call a shove and I felt like my hand was face up more or less as being pretty strong and ahead of something like 9s or Ts. I think a river check is bad, and curious what the general 2p2 line would be here.
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