[Garland]

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let's suppose TAG had 88. Would it actually be right for him to raise in front of the maniac and try to blow people out of the water with dead draws to flush and straights?


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This is live limit, 2 BB cold in a 13.5 BB pot is not going to dissuade too many flush draws/straight draws. They might be drawing dead, but most people don't care and they got the overlay just in case.

By TAG raising here, he gets the extra big bets out of the draws who won't call a river bet when they miss otherwise. Also, he may get multiple bets on the river when the nut flush gets there. Finally, maniac may keep raising with K3 or whatever he could have here.

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While in general I would agree players just like to draw no matter what, any idiot can see the flop cap action and the board pairing and add 2+2. However, the maniac's actions may cloud the other players' judgment and the table could easily be in disarray, so I reserve judgment and wait for others to speak.

Garland