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Old 11-21-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Hugo Chavez Death Pool Thread

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Since socialism is the antithesis of freedom, I want the US to actively oppose him.

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Huh? Canada is moderately socialist and we are completely free. I'm pretty sure norway and sweden are very much socialist countries as well and I believe that Norway is usually ranked close to the top in "best places to live" lists.

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You are far from free, for starters you are denied medical rights as is the US and most other coutntires. I lived in Sweden for 5 years and certainly the popularity of socialism and currents within goverment is evident just from living in the close-knit friendly normal communities, neighbourhoods etc. where there is a real feel of community and well-being, the opposite of the UK which is supposed to have a democratic socialist government.

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What? The nation that has low effective tax rates for non-domiciled residents? The nation that has the center of international finance?

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I dont know what your talking about but I assume you are suggesting that Britain is not democratic socialist. I guess this WIKI segment sums it up;

"The Labour Party grew out of the trade union movement and socialist political parties of the 19th century, and continues to describe itself as a party of democratic socialism.[1]

The Labour Party traditionally was in favour of socialist policies such as public ownership of key industries, government intervention in the economy, redistribution of wealth, increased rights for workers and trade unions, and a belief in the welfare state and publically funded healthcare and education.

Since the mid-1980s, under the leadership of Neil Kinnock, John Smith and Tony Blair the party has moved away from its traditional socialist position towards what is often described as the "Third Way" adopting some Thatcherite and free market policies after losing in four consecutive general elections.

This has led many observers to describe the Labour Party as social democratic or even neo-liberal rather than democratic socialist.[2] Blair himself has described New Labour's political position as a "Third Way"."
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