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Old 11-20-2007, 09:32 PM
hagbard celine hagbard celine is offline
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Default Re: whats your play ??????????

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My 4bet is all in here.

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Shoving is fine.

However, some other posters and myself have been talking a lot about this forum, and one thing we've found is the propensity for the brutish PF shove.

Understand that by shoving KK here you are losing a lot of value from hands that will fold to a shove, but will call a healthy but reasonable 4bet, not to mention hands that may fold to a shove, but may shove over a healthy but reasonable 4bet.
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