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Old 11-19-2007, 11:17 PM
psandman psandman is offline
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Default Re: Checking it down

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As a dealer, and as the rules in my room (and every room I know of in this city) stand this is not considered collusion. As long as the players who are discussing the hand are involved in the hand and discussing it openly it is considered angeling. Angeling is considered bad form in most places, but I have never seen it result in hand being killed or any action being taken (my Casino and two others in town even openly permit it). One of the players could have had a terrible hand and was just trying to talk the other guy out of betting in hopes that he would catch up. Punishing a player for saying "check it down?" is as absurd as punishing a player for saying "I'm going to raise if you bet." It's all just table talk.
The only time I've ever seen collusion called is when they players are attempting to deceive the table by working as team. This clearly wasn't the case in this situation.

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The fact that you are a dealer greatly angers me. the idea that any professional does not understand that this is a violation of one player to a hand, is collusion, and is not just table talk makes me sad about the state of our profession.

I understand that as a dealer there is nothing you can do about the managment refusing to handle this appropriately, but you seem to really believe that this is appropriate behavior.
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