[Ansky]

JTs and KQs are significantly better than 87s gobbo.

Also, I think going for a check raise on the turn is real bad.

When he checks behind on the flop, he is very likely to check behind again on the turn. His most likely hands are marginal hands w/ decent showdown value, that if they bet they are very likely to fold to a raise. If you bet and bet again however, he is very likely to try to snap you off. Check raising this turn would be ok if it set up a ~ pot sized river bet, but given how deep we are it doesn't really work.

Also, regarding preflop:

Gobbo might be able to make a profit here, there are plenty of ppl who can. My point was merely that too many ppl seem to think that 130bbs deep or whatever this is is "DEEP" stacks, when it really isn't. You do not magically have implied odds vs big hands when you call here out of the small blind. POSITION IS REALLY IMPORTANT.