Re: Is this a place to slowplay ? Set of Kings NL25
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PF: Maybe a little bit big, but i really didnīt want some random Ace to limp/call.
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Giving your thoughts on why here might be useful to the OP. One liners that he obviously has no idea how to decipher how he was wrong do not help anyone.
OP: Preflop just raise 5x (4x bigblind + 1 for each limper). Random aces limp/calling isn't bad, it is profitable. They have 3 outs to beat you, and if their x hits then they may pay off some more with a middle pair. Don't try to push out hands that have barely any outs vs you.
Postflop is fine. If you feel he is weak then it is fine to slowplay here. Obv. a J,10 or A may lose you a pot(straight hands with those combinations are all possible to limp-call) so it's not a always slowplay thing but this is a situation where it isn't horrible. I would prefer K83 instead, and that is also what you should be looking for, but if he looked really weak then yea slowplaying here is not a bad thing.
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while studying NLT&P and PNL i see references to bet sizing preflop/postflop for pot manipulation. "do you want to play a big pot or small pot" kind of stuff. OP's raise seems out of line to me as i'll also raise 4xBB + limpers as a rule but, i've also been attempting to randomize my preflop betting patterns as well. leaning towards raising more when i want to play a bigger pot against fewer opponents.
rambling now... not sure where this is going but this is a gray area for me.
my gut instinct says the preflop raise was too high for the wrong reasons. the side wanting to utilise bet sizing says this is okay since i want to make the pot bigger and hopefully play for stacks.
as for the flop, how negative would it be to bet 60-70% of pot?
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You can bet the flop. I said he could slowplay b/c the instacheck told him he thought the guy was weak. That doesn't mean the same thing on all opponents, though, but if this one it does mean that, then a check is fine. Usually a bet is fine.
Preflop: Don't do what you are doing. If you want to change bet sizing, do it by position, not by your preflop hand. Otherwise it is too obvious.
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