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Fantastic post.

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Eh, I'm definitely titling after the OSU loss today and probably being too hard on Lloyd. Most of his players really like him and everyone agrees he's a nice guy and treats everyone well. I maintain he lost control over of some of his teams over the past few seasons with some questionable off the field stuff, but it's probably fair to give the guy credit for representing the university well.

So yeah, he ran a clean program when you consider most variables; I just think some of players did a bunch of dumb things off-the-field the field the last few seasons, and the attitudes of a bunch of players were highly questionable on-the-field, and it seemed as if Lloyd was less likely to take any meaningful disciplinary action these past few seasons, compared to what Bo or other coaches might have tolerated.