[BigPoppa]

Can anyone seriously argue that the "bad" recruits Weiss has to work with aren't still far more talented than the players at Navy, Air Force, Michigan State, Purdue, and Georgia Tech?

Part of being a coach is working with what you have and getting the best out of your players. Weiss clearing fails to do that. In fact, he appears to get the worst out of them instead. I don't ever think I've seen a top level team just flat out quit the way ND has this year. They put out less effort than any other team in the country week after week, and that's all on the head coach.