[Kaj]

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So let's recap. I make a joke about ACers' feelings for AC being similar to a horny teenager's feelings of sex (ha ha good one!),

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Sorry, I didn't really see why that joke/comparison was either relevant or funny.

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you (annoyingly, and wrongly) decide to respond to it with an odd suggestion that ACism is based on "ideals."

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Why is it annoying and wrong to respond with a more relevant (and funnier, I'd say) comparison? Sheesh, this is a message board, isn't it?

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I state my disagreement, and that's therefore dogmatic?

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The dogmatism is that you failed to see the point I was making and instead provided a diatribe about why the state is more "idealistic" than ACism.

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I think it's pretty obvious that statism's practices are of an idealistic mindset. ...

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And here you go again on same diatribe. The point was related to the fact that many ACists say they won't vote or run for office because both the candidates and the system are flawed. Many libertarians acknowledge that but try to work within the system anyway (including that hero of many ACists, Ron Paul). That was the point. It's really useless to go on about "statists are more ideal". First off, it's a very debatable and wholly subjective point. Second, there are thousands and thousands of libertarians and others who acknowledge the flaws of the systems and are trying to change it, comprising some of their ideals in practice. Thirdly (and quite obviously), the state exists in practice not just theory or historical reference. FWIW I am an anarchist myself. I am proud to say I am idealistic. I am also practical enough to understand that the system won't just go away on its own. Your defensiveness regarding your dogma and refusal to budge at all when the least bit of criticism arises is quite typical of those with your religious fervor for ACism. It is at least somewhat encouraging that many of said ACists who used to berate me and other minarchist scum for promoting libertarian politics in practice are now leading the charge to elect none other than a major 2-party candidate and sitting Congressman who is far less radical than myself or some other libertarians. I think I'd rather burn the Capitol than work in it. But I still will vote for Ron Paul and accept his less than perfect platform as a step in the right direction. I guess that makes me a filthy statist idealist [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] ...