[Sean Fraley]

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I really think I am going to stop four betting QQ against these tighter players who only three bet 5% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]I always 4bet allin. Unless playing reallllllly deep. edit: Not with QQ, or well I do for sure, but in general 4bet=shove.

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yeah what i meant. fourbetting AI with QQ+ and Ak. i just think against some of these ~5% 3betters i should maybe make it AA,KK,AK. However when I four bet to like 7 with a SC they fold so i guess i variance has been good to me somewhat. like tonight i raise OTB with QQ, like third time i raise PF in a row dude in BB threebets it and hud saying he threebets about 6% of time over 1500 hands and I think ok thats useless cause he just saw me raise like 3-4 hands in a row and i playing like 35/28 so he probably 3betting light so I'll just shove and he will call lighter. lol wrong. KK gg.

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I just PokerStoved this, and QQ is ~40% to win if opponents range a KK+, AKs, AKo. I think that there are a decent number of situations where when the 3-bet by villain is large, villain has less than a full stack, or villain makes a large enough limp-reraise after hero made a big initial raise (think a limp-reraise after hero raises after a number of limpers), or some combination of these that 4-bet shoving will be +EV.