[Paul Thomson]

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i didnt say turn ch/r was the best way to get value. i actually prefer to just b/c the turn adn think that line is much better for all the reasons you stated.
i was only pointing out that if we DO in fact ch/r the turn, its for value, and not just as a bluff, because we are almost always ahead here

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i agree that check-raising would be for value, although we're only getting called by better (unless draws are somehow priced in)...so in that case, check-calling the turn would probably be better.