Thread: A-Q OOP !
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: A-Q OOP !

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3betting AQ is oh so standard except against some really nitty players....You'll take it right there a lot and most of the times you don't you win with a c-bet on the flop. And most of the time I'd get my stack in on an A or Q high board.


People really need to open up their 3betting range. You can't just "3bet to set-up an easy all-in on a hand that's going to want it." 3betting hands as bad as suited connectors, low to mid-pairs will need to be done at vs. certain opponents...even 3betting garbage in the right spots will be +ev and also help to cultivate an image.



As played I just call the flop. His range is extremely wide (flush draw is a very small part of it) and there is no reason to raise.

Now he mini3bet you and now this spot sucks. I probably call and then check and call that turn shove. He could have a worse Q like KQ, maybe QJ or maybe like JJ,TT getting stubborn on the 1 overcard board or some stupid draw....or stupid bluff.

I of course would not be surprised to lose this to like AA,KK or perhaps 76s.

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I don't deny that lighter 3-betting can be called for, but at 25NL is the villain that you want to be doing this on all that common?


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I've played less than 175 hands at 25Nl in my life. However, against a CO raiser I'm 3betting AQ unless villian is like 10/4 with an attempt to steal = 6. Then I probably won't.


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Or is it just a good move? My fear (and tell me if this is silly/wrong) is that the "standard" hands that I think most villains are flatting my 3-bet are JJ+ and AK.


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That's silly/wrong. And if it were true it would be +ev to 3bet them with ATC unless their PRF% was incredibly tiny.

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The difference between AQ vs. that range and AK vs. that range is pretty big, plus I'm now OOP, holding what is often a marginal hand (that's only hitting 1/3rd of the time anyway, and sometimes connecting on a KQx board).


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Your opponent's hand will miss most of the time too and now you have the intiative.
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Do you have any specific advice for playing 3-bet boards OOP with hands like AQ, or even suited connectors and such?

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Well generally c-bet the flop and check/fold to further action unless you hit something. Generally felt with a set, 2 pair, an A or Q high board, a flush draw with 2 overs with your AQ....some other hands as well......play poker.


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Do you still 3-bet this vs. a guy that you figure will call you down with, say, 99 on a 338 flop?


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Yes. This villian can just as likely have AK/AJ and lots of other hands on the flop....and the flop isn't always coming 8 high when he has 99. And it disguises me stacking people with QQ+ against their low overpair on these all low card boards.



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