[AlienBoy]

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Interestinly, in utg/utg+1 Q6o is stronger than Q6s... I misread thisnearlier...

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I think if you see that, it's a demonstration that the numbers have not converged. Surely you don't really think Q6o is better than Q6s, do you? That's crazy talk.
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No, of course I don't think that - just interesting in that as I read this chart more closely, I begin to see some of its deficiencies. I wasn't able to communicate this last night (posting from my iPhone is kind of a pain, actually) Here at home though:

Obviously Q6s is much stronger than Q6o.

Why does it appear opposite in this chart? Because this is a chart of the ev for average players in real hands.

Even bad players fold Q6o in EP PF, but bad players still play Q6s in EP. That is, people are more apt to overplay Q6s than Q6o, thus resulting is lower numbers for Q6s.



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Consider that even in a very large database, the number of hands where any kind of Q6 is played in EP may be pretty small. You are certain to see fluctuations in these numbers due to sample size.

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Thenpoint still remains than QJo is a horrid hand in ep.

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At the risk of nitpicking, I think "horrid" overstates the case. But yeah, folding it in EP is excellent advice.

thanks.
Eric

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Okay, so let's put this to rest - My choice of Q6s to compare to QJo was a bit off (though not THAT much). It would have been better to chose a different hand.

AB