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Old 11-14-2007, 11:48 PM
drzen drzen is offline
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Default Re: $16 - KK 1st hand

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I raised too 600, the flop came Axx, we both checked and he bet about half the pot on turn and I was realy in a sick spot.
Guess it's too risky with Kings.

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Why do you assume he has an ace on the turn? Why did you check on the flop?

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An ace is very likely in his reraise - call range.

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Yes, I agree. I hate this flop after your preflop action because I think I cannot win, can only lose (like sence points out, everything you beat can fold if you shove the flop and you're not likely to fold anything out that you beat). If I don't feel he can have called enough of a range preflop, I don't think you have a bad spot here; I think you have a straightforward fold.

But I'm concerned that a player who calls your PFRR is bad enough to have a wider range than we are crediting here.

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He would probably push with QQ+.

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Preflop?

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And probably do this with TT/AK/AQ.

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You think he calls a decent reraise with those hands? Why wouldn't he just shove? And if he calls a big reraise with AQ, why wouldn't he call it with 99-77 or some other stuff, such as KQ, KJ etc, particularly if those hands are suited? Yeah, those hands do not call a flop push, but they might have a nibble on the turn.

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Also, the pot was so big that it was either playing for (a big part of) my whole stack or fold and have 900 chips left.

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Well, the pot's only big because you made it big.

As played, I'm probably crediting him for an ace too, but I was curious about how you had thought about it.
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