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Old 11-14-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Big call vs bigjoe2003, how bad is this really?

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the idea is that, as kevin touched on, its much better to shove when you know he cant call than call off with such close stacks and such a dominating position when hes already shoved.

If hes on any 2, its barely +EV (+0.1)....since bigjoe is known to spite call anyways, I'd probably have just typed in "my bubble!!!!" if i had made the call.

fact is, even if the shorty is calling kinda loose and you calling with as wide as JJ+, AK, he should still be pushing like 90% of his hands, so its almost always going to be +EV or him to be shoving more or less ATC. it sucks but you just cant really call, he got to act before you....such is life.

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NE calculator shows BJ should shove 100% and BB should call 4.7%, including AKo.

If either BJ doesn't push enough, or perhaps he is pushing correctly because he's correctly assuming people are calling too much (may or may not be true), then it would be a bad call. If everyone is playing correctly, or if BJ is playing correctly and correctly reading people for folding too much, then it's a good call.

edit: RE AKo vs narrower range - yeah, it may be a good call even if BJ thinks people call a little too much.
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