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dude remember middle school, jr high, high school? Picking on someone's weaknesses deliberately to cause emotional harm happens constantly, people with depression are not exempt... and yet most of them don't kill themselves.

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There's a difference between simple hazing and bullying between peers in middle and high school and deliberate, malicious acts of torment by a group of adults towards a pubescent girl.

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deliberate malicious acts of torment by a group of young adults towards pubescent girls and boys is abnormal? I hear you, I just think you underestimate how frequent this sort of deliberate, premeditated, malicious and cruel behavior occurs I guess

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He never said it was abnormal. This is where I think you're spinning the conversation wayyyy off. He just said that it is a different mentality that is producing the hazing. The key point of his statement was that adults were doing it.

You duders who think that the "difference isn't that big" must not be looking at it from the adult's side. To the victim it might be similar, but the levels of intent to harm (and the knowledge they should have of knowing better) are the focus here imo.