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Old 11-14-2007, 02:41 PM
skier_5 skier_5 is offline
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Default Re: Something you guys dont do enough

sauce, im talking about specifically button and sb (and sometimes co). not utg.

schwza, while you are right i did [censored] up in the presentation a bit, my point was that pretty much anything with reasonable equity will show a profit by shoving over these guys.

So, let's take two of these hands

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.650% 25.02% 00.63% 406080276 10283238.00 { A2o, JTo }
Hand 1: 74.350% 73.72% 00.63% 1196617440 10283238.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }


and we see that on avg we get 25.6% equity

0=4.5x - 8.63 +8.63x
8.63 = 13.132x
x= 0.66

So he needs to fold only 11% more than our collective range showed to breakeven (we have a lot more equity against a looser calling range as well) so it's still very likely profitable.

Some people suggested that their calling range might be flawed:

So if we use this range:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.968% 29.21% 00.75% 894397800 23087820.00 { A2o, JTo }
Hand 1: 70.032% 69.28% 00.75% 2121026112 23087820.00 { 77+, AJs+, AQo+ }

we fill in our equation

0=4.5x - 6.85 +6.85x
6.85 = 11.35x
x= 0.603

Which still isn't much

So if they are opening { 22+, ATs+, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo } (17.9% of hands) they are folding 65% of the time.

edit: was wrong to use A2o and Jto together since one does better than the other but im sick of redoing this [censored].
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