[Mr_Pathetic]

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There are many hundreds of 2p2ers in their 20s who are earning $100 - $500/hour online.

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I call serious BS on that statements. There are not hundreds of 20 something 2p2ers earning the equivalent of $200,000 to $1,000,000 a year online (assuming they are playing the equivalent of a full-time job).

Try maybe 10. And for those that can do this over a 8-10 year span, perhaps 2.

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your have really lost it here. i know a few folks that do not even post on this site making $150 an hour multitabling NL200. it can be done and can be done for millions of hands if you can handle it.

try this, a good player can earn 5PTBB/100. now plug that into this formula: (PTBB/100)(2/100)(BigBlind)(#ofhands) and that equals your take. so for example. I beat NL25 for 7.5 with huge tilt problems 20k hands. Could I run hot during this, of course, winrates aren't even solid till a few 100k hands. but you can expect 7.5 +-2 I would guess. So if I beat NL25 for 5PTBB my formula looks like this (5)(2/100)(.25)(20000)=500. I can play that many hands in two weeks.

Now look at someone who plays around 30k hands at NL200 every month and here is there take. (5)(2/100)(2)(30000)=6,000. Now that is a decent chunk of change and those who can attain this winrate will move up. the mediocre players who stay here can expect 2-3. now (2)(2/100)(2)(30000)=2400. Now keep in mind those who make only 2-3 often play 6+ tables and put in huge numbers of hands every month.

Now to the ones who move to NL400-NL1000. A good solid player can earn 2PTBB here. A really good player can do 4+ easily. So someone doing 2PTBB at NL400: (2)(2/100)(4)(30000)= 4800 or 57600 per year. Someone at NL1000: (2)(2/100)(10)(30000)= 12,000 or 144,000 per year. Now keep in mind I have some datamined hands where some of the decent regs have made 4PTBB+ over 55k hands.

Now to NL2000. A very solid player here can do 2 PTBB. Now formula for this guy playing 30k hands a month. (2)(2/100)(20)(30000)=24,000. Now thats 24000*12= 288,000.

So I hope this helps you see exactly how much money people are making. So if you think only 2 people can do this year in and year out your nuts. Maybe only 10 can do it at NL5000, I'll give you that.

NOW think of how long it takes to get in 30,000 hands a month. Definitely NOT 40 hours a week. I can do 1000 a day on 3-4 tables in three hours. So it is not unreasonble to think that someone can play 2k hands a day for 28 days a month. I play six days a week, 1000 hands a day. So most full timers prob avg around 40-50k hands a month. I left this at 30k to deliberately skew the numbers. So people making these amounts are playing three hours a day over 30 days. I'll take $2400 a month for three hours of work a day.

Disclaimer: I used 2PTBB in a lot of equations here so you cannot go off and say no one can do five cause anyone with some good fundamentals and tilt management can crank out 2 in MSNL. Tilt management on those inevitable downswings from hell and breakeven stretches at such a small winrate will be crucial. also some people play 30k hands every two weeks and quite a few of these guys who play a ton of tables for 2PTBB get in anywhere from 30-100k hands per month.

EDIT: if you think this formula is BS try it on a PT database. It works with very good accuracy.