Re: soap c/r
if anything, Bob's line is being un-results oriented. Vs. a thinking opponent, 4betting the turn turns your hand face up. It can no longer be KJ+, it is exactly QT. Setting up a nice check/raise on the field is very sexy. However, I disagree that "if sb folds, 4betting this turn is awful". From Soap's POV, "hero" has 5bet pf, and 3bet the turn after heavy flop action. I have no doubt in my mind that "hero" has KK. I don't believe that "hero" will finally fold top set for one more bet on the river, so I def. go ahead and 4bet the turn. OTOH, if he does indeed have KK and we just call the turn, he'll likely put us on JJ/99 and bet the river anyway. So yeah, I guess I actually agree with PBob. Call the 3bet, check/raise the river when the board doesn't pair. You get the same 5BB in with both lines, but in PBob's line, you save a bet when the board pairs.
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