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Old 11-13-2007, 07:21 PM
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Default Re: KK vs cold-calling TAG

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cs3,
why is c/c such a bad line on the turn? Because we miss value from Queens? I don't think he's calling 2 streets of value with AQ if we donk turn and bet river.

Or is it because you don't want to give a free card to a draw?

I'm assuming you're b/f-ing the turn then?

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i dont like your line becaue because he rarely if ever fires both turn and river with a AQ, but will almost always call both streets with AQ.
and yes, i think b/f > ch/r > c/c given how the hand has been played up to this point

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I think b/f the turn is absolutely TERRIBLE vs. a 20/18.

Either:

1) He puts you on an absolute monster for calling the flop and donking the turn and folds

or

2) He thinks your line is really [censored] fishie and it looks like you are b/fing so he raises (particularly with all his non-Q semi-bluff hands that you still beat).

Neither result is very hot for you.
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