[Zetack]

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"You don't even have enough for a legal raise"

It's not a raise.

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Yes, I thought I quoted the rules above in this thread, although perhaps I imagined it. to reiterate: the 1/2 bet rule is a limit concept. As Pfapfap says, only a full raise is a raise in NL.

Also, I'm not sure why so many people think that bec1972 has some weird closing the action rule (aside from improperly using the 1/2 bet rule in a NL game). What he's saying is that if you have a short stack in the hand and you'd like to whipsaw the people in between you, make sure to bet small enough that when shorty pushes, it reopens the action to you. Intervening players may not have called a 60 dollar opener, but may well call after your 30 dollar opener and the shorty's push to 45. Then you can ree-rah when it gets back to you to either trap more money in the pot or drive players out leaving their dead money behind.

Given his strategic point, its a bit of a stretch to read into his post (although his post is ambiguous about it) that if shorty's all in is less than 45 (in our example) that the action is closed to the intervening players who haven't acted yet.

--Zetack