[GiantBuddha]

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mp raiser makes it 7, i make it 24 out of sb with kk, he 3-bets to 60. he's 21/4, your play?

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Shove, flop quads, lose to runner runner one card royal. Seriously, though, 21/4 over how many hands? I think there's a difference between a 21/4 and a 12/4 here, as the 21/4 probably plays a little less consistently, and really doesn't like folding much. Also, I think the lower the PFR, the longer it takes to converge since there's fewer hands in their range.