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Who cares about his calling range when he's bluffing so often?

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you should care. it dramatically affects your overall equity.

This is why I think it's much better to do this with AJ (not that calling pf with AJ would be good, but you get the point) rather than 88.

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Saying what hands you'd rather have makes no difference. [censored] I'd rather have top set every hand. You look at this individual hand in a vacuum combined with reads. Shoving here is +EV, because he's bluffing so often. Of course when you get called you're crushed, but his calling range isn't important because shoving is +EV with 88.

We can discuss the merits of calling the flop having a higher expectation; however, pokerstoving his calling range is stupid because of course it has us crushed.

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Fonkey,
I can't believe you just said this. You know better than this.

And kaby,
Thanks for correcting my math.

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He fires flop, I flat called.

Turn came a 5.
He fires again like less than half potleaving $68 or so. I said [censored] it and shove. He calls and shows 77. And I hold.

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