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Old 11-12-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Very Simple Straightforward 2/4 Question

A9s is a substantially stronger hand than QJo - and I mean substantially by a mile. A9s is a +EV hand, and QJo is a -EV hand, over the long term with average players.


In fact A9s is slightly stronger than KQo, 77, and KJo

However, A9s is slightly weaker than QJs, KTs and JTs.


In loose passive games, such as the games at Commerce in LA, you can call in early position with A9s provided that you have a good read on the later position players and don't expect a raise. The REASON you can play this hand in EP in these games is that you can expect enough callers behind to pay you off later if you hit - though being OOP you'll need to be tricky to extract.

QJo is a different situation - it's a unsuited connector, and not substantially different than JTo or T9o.

Yea, it looks pretty, but it's hard to play OOP. QJo is weaker that 33, it is weaker than Q6s - would you ever think of playing Q6s in EP? Hell, I don't even play Q6s on the button.

Playing QJo OOP is one of the huge leaks in most beginner's games. It's a late position hand.



Now, getting to your other questions, once you are in the pot, folding for ONE more bet is ludicrous - you are now getting twice the pot odds you were getting before. If it is raised and then THREE bet, then you can consider folding some hands.

Remember that playing weaker suited aces (A8s and below) is mainly for nut flush value - but you need to hit at least the nut draw on the flop to continue. Keep in mind that if you hod two suited cards, you'll actually completely your flush only 3% of the time. SO you need to see the flop as cheaply as possible, AND you need to have 4 or more in the pot with you to pay you off if you do hit it.

A9s is a special case, as in loose passive games in UNRAISED POTS, it often holds up when an Ace flops, as any weaker ace is going to pay you off (and in these games, most retards call PF with any ace).


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