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Old 11-12-2007, 04:55 PM
Nick C Nick C is offline
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Default Re: Common turn problem - QQ

Give Villain a starting range of any ace, KT-T8, any two broadways, any PP, any two suited, and any 0-gapped or 1-gapped connectors, stipulate that Villain needs at least a pair or a gutshtot to get past the flop, and we're behind on the turn approximately as often as we're ahead (unless I just did the rough math grossly wrong), but with the worst of the outs, giving us an equity disadvantage.

And, okay, maybe Villain isn't so loose as to play A4o versus a preflop raise, but if he isn't, then hands like 53o and 42o and 92s may fail to make the cut as well.

I think a question to consider here is whether or not he's reliably loose and passive enough that we can check-fold both the turn and river. It seems like a lot to ask for, but StellarWind did call him "very loose/passive."
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