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A decent chunk of his 5-bet shoving range is going to be AK/AQ stuff - when 86 actually has more value than hero's hand. I mean against JJ-AA,AK,AQ as his 5-bet range, 86 has 29%, a3 has 30%. Give him a range of QQ-AA,AK,AQ and 86 actually has more equity than a3s.

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AQ is much worse than TT. Either you put 88+.AQ+ or JJ+.AK+.

And vs those ranges A3s is like the best hand.

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I'm just going with what I've experienced as 5-bet ranges. Alot of people are shoving AQ. For the most part, only nutcases or guys with lots of history are shoving pairs less than TT. And even TT is somewhat uncommon.

I think if you have people 5-bet shoving 88 against you then you have built up one hell of a game. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]