[shpanko]

good post pineapple, very good points. I guess I can concede on this. I was just feeling like when the money goes in we're going to always be up against 2pair+, but we're usually not up against AK I suppose.

I think the thing that bothers me the most (obv) is that we have 3 opponents and with the action I feel like we're almost always behind on this flop. I know there's a lot of money in the pot but it's still tough for me to accept that I have to bet/call the flop when I usually only have an OESD. But I'll concede that I think your post was right on.