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If we raise river it should be something comical like a minraise (w/ intentions of folding to a 3b)

But I think its pretty damn thin and I think raising the river is probably a small mistake in SNGs

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after talking to a few ppl about it i may feel pretty strongly about a minraise or making it 2.5x. the way this hand played out is really weird in him putting me on Ax hands or too many real powerful hands, so i think any hand he leads twice with will call at least a minraise on the river. if hes bluff shoving, congratu-[censored]-lations, not really a factor here as i dont expect it to happen much and dont have a tough decision when it does.

bc of my issues assigning and weighting ranges given the way it played out im not convinced it has to be always and only a call yet. waiting on what everyone else has to say as well.

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See while I agree with most of this, I think the raise is slightly unprofitable because of his calling range, not because of his 3b-bluff frequency (which should be close to 0%).

If we posted this hand from his perspective and gave him A2os with you raising river to 300, I imagine the consensus will be "FOLD FOLD FOLD". In fact, I'm not really sure what hands in his range we are trying to get value from. It seems like hes never calling a river raise with a worse hand.

His calling range (if hes a solid player/handreader) should be very very tight. Because of this, we need to loosen his call range enough to make the raise profitable (by decreasing our raise size/minraising).

I prefer:

call > minraise > 300