Thread: AA on KQ board
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Old 11-10-2007, 11:42 PM
coldi coldi is offline
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Default Re: AA on KQ board

I think the call on the flop is ok, although c/minraise is often a pretty strong hand. With Villain2 coldcalling, the
situation becomes somewhat difficult; he could be doing this on a draw or a monster; nevertheless, with 50.5:8 (or ~6:1)
odds you cant fold here.

So now the turn blanks and SB bets below half potsize and Villain two calls cold again. I would fold here because villain leading into two players after two calls on the flop
indicates a strong hand, at least two pair or better. Villain2's call might still be a draw but could be a monster as well (which he doesnt protect but fish tend to do so) so you have to worry about him as well. Your only getting 4:1 odds on a call (apx.) and will often be confronted with a river bet, so this is an easy fold, unless you have strong reads on your opponents.

With the river being a card to complete one of the most likely draws (JT) and villain1 leading into two players (AGAIN) and villain2 calling again, this becomes an totally
easy fold; there is almost nothing you beat that will c/r the flop and bet turn and river. Villain2 has you beat quite often as well, although he might have a lonely king as well.
So you might sometimes beat one of the both players, but almost never both;

hope i could help,
coldi

Edit: The proposal from the post above is one i personally dont like; reraising the flop will drive out most draws, yes, but all hands that beat you will call or shove, and almost no hands you are beating will call (i dont think KJ
or KT would pay of a reraise) so i think calling and hoping for a cheap showdown is the better line; at least you got position.
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