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check/call is clearly our best bet here. or maybe just pushing is...but i seriously cant believe anyone is advocating bet-fold here.

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It's a pretty easy spot for a bet/fold imo. The fact you don't think it is even something worth considering is very telling about your play. Give me a better argument than ZOMG fold getting 4-1. I'm willing to listen.

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If your going to bet-fold, why not just check/call? check call at least induces bluffs and we're going to invest another 2/3 of the pot anyway. Also, we have no chance of getting pushed out if we check (unless villain pushes after we check...thats the only way i could ever see a fold on this river)