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Old 11-07-2007, 05:10 PM
Adrian20XX Adrian20XX is offline
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Default Re: Absolute Does Not Respond to Two Plus Two’s Fraud Investigation O

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Second, Absolute has apparently agreed to allow Bluff Magazine and Pocket Fives to review the findings of the investigation without a similar arrangement for Two Plus Two. This seems strange considering Two Plus Two’s role in uncovering and discussing this situation.

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It's kind of funny how when Nat was considering whether to go down to Costa Rica "as a representative for twoplustwo", Mason was very quick to point out that "I'm sorry but you do not represent Two Plus Two. That authorization can only from me."

However, when it comes to taking credit for uncovering the scandal, he's happy to have all the credit associated with the "Two Plus Two" name.

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don't post anymore.

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I totally agree that the position of Mason is contradictory on this point, and it's even more contradictory on this one:

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Over the past two months Two Plus Two and its forum members have been responsible for noticing, investigating, and ultimately alerting the world to the suspicious and potentially fraudulent cheating activity occurring at Absolute Poker.


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Two Plus Two speaking by his representative Mason was clear that Nat and the forum members do not represent Two Plus Two, and he did it in a very sharp way. And with obvious reasons, they were not appointed by Two Plus Two as representatives, period.

But then his statement than "Two Plus Two and its forum members have been responsible for noticing, investigating, and ultimately alerting the world" is really horrible and unfair to the posters that were cut sharp when Nat sayed or implied that he was representing either Two Plus Two or the Two Plus Two community, Nat and the other did the noticing, investigation, and alerting job, not Two Plus Two. And in the same way that Two Plus Two can decide who represents them and who does not represent them, the posters also have the right to claim who did they represented when they did this. So, even if the posters would had accepted the representation, the representation was clearly rejected by Two Plus Two.

And when he says Two Plus Two has been responsible, he is clearly saying Two Plus Two, he's a person who has a very clear concept of what is Two Plus Two and reads every post with that concept in his mind, and who is the Two Plus Two Community, so he can not get the benefit of the doubt when he confuses the two terms. But then, even if he meant the "Two Plus Two Community", meaning the people who post at 2+2, I'm pretty sure this is also totally incorrect, he can not say who represents the Community and who does not. I'm a member of this community, and to my knowledge this Community does not have formal representatives, also because it does not have a way to elect these representatives.

All Two Plus Two did, was to provide the infrastructure and also the atmosphere for a group of posters of Two Plus Two to notice, investigate and alert.

I've saw this the very same moment Mason made the post, but I didn't made it because I said ok, I love 2+2, I will let this one go.

But now one of the zillions of flamers comes to flame a guy that made a point that is totally valid, and I had to say my word, in order for 2+2 to continue to be the place I want to be, a place when points are made based on facts, and without the zillions flamers that do not add any value to anyone.

Regards ...
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