Re: KK pf facing 4bet (not folding of course)
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Lol.
4-bets are not dreaded when you have KK pf and are 100bb's deep. They are a cause to throw a party.
After someone sticks 38bb's PF, they aren't folding. Further, if you call, an A either kills you or your action, and high cards are going to scare villian if they have a pair under that card. Just shove and fistpump. Sometimes it's AA, and you have to deal with it. Most of the time its not. I don't know how many times this thread needs to be made.
(Also, wtf at calling for setmining purposes/folding on flop?)
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The reason this post is so common is that light pf 4betting is not at low stakes.
I have almost never seen this done without AA/KK being flipped.
Not my main question though... I've accepted it, I'm not folding, and thats fine but is the best line to shove or call here? If I'm up against JJ+/AK, surely calling and seeing the flop with stacks behind is the line best suiting our villan if we're prepared to get in regardless after the flop?
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