[psandman]

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And people wearing suist can't be degenerate gamblers with bad credit and financial problems and flawed concept of probability.

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psandman,

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but have you actually played in any of the Manhattan clubs in the last couple of years? If so, which ones (since they're all closed anyway)? My observations are based on my play at PlaySation, *****, **** and others during the last 4 or so years when I lived in Manhattan.

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No i haven't but the point is that poker is not some haven for the educated gnetleman gambler as opposed to the lottery being for degenerates. I know people who have played in NYC clubs during the time frame yiou describe. Some were educated professionals, but some were clueless degenerate gamblers, and and among them you might not be able to tell the difference from casual conversation, or by the way they dress.