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Engineer,

I don't doubt that both you and Mr Pappas are sincere and are working very hard on our behalf. I think you have the right idea by coming to a forum populated by poker players and listening.

Let me explain my "Something Tangible" comment. Outside of the Washington Fly-in I can't think of one thing the PPA has done and I am on this board every day. Even if you point something out from 6 months ago, it has not resonated with me.

I do not yet associate the PPA with being the poker player's advocate like I associate Google with search engine or McDonald's with fast food or the NRA with the 2nd Amendment.