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Old 11-05-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: Bonds Responds

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1. Sheff says he recieved the same thing Barry did, a clear and cream substance.

Greg testified on Sept 3, 2003, that he gave steroids to his "little guys", Benito Santiago, Armando Rios, Marvin Benard, and Bobby Estella.

He never mentioned giving steroids to Barry Bonds or Gary Sheffield.

Greg, in fact, testified that Barry Bonds had never taken "the clear" or "the cream".

The only thing "damning" with this statement is that, for all we know, Sheff and Bonds both recieved flaxseed oil and arthritic balm from Greg.

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For all we know, Sheff and Bonds both recieved "the cream" and "the clear" from Greg. But because Greg says he never gave his highest paid, highest profile clients these things even though he admits to giving them to other clients we should give him the benefit of the doubt?

Inconclusive either way, but certainly does nothing to clear BB/GS.

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2. Sheff says he never saw Barry taking "red beans".

Not very damning, considering this would be exculpatory.


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Agreed. Just included the whole quote.

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3. Sheff says he saw Bonds taking a clear substance, and a cream substance.

Did Sheff see Bonds taking flaxseed oil and arthritic balm?

Even Sheff says he doesn't know, and he isn't sure.

Yet, you think it is "damning" because you project your opinion that you WANT it to be steroids, rather than looking at it objectively.

Funny how that works...huh?

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Right, so he is not sure. Which is fine with me. I am not sure. But when you add up the pieces it seems pretty damning.

1) Greg Anderson and Victor Conte make/distribute PED's.
2) BB/GS/other players work with Greg Anderson.
3) Other players implicated in getting PED's from Anderson.
4) BB/GS willingly take a substance that they think is flaxseed oil and arthritic balm, but are not sure that is what it was.
5) Profit?
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