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Over the last 3 years I have about 300k hands in Limit (most of those being at 30/60) and only about 50k hands in NL (I'm transitioning).

During those years, I've been asking myself the same question, "Why limit?"

The variance in LHE is greater than NL because your player edge vs your opponents in LHE is less.

In stoxtrader's "Well" thread, there were a couple questions and answers that really should turn anyone off from LHE:

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Stox,

Why do you play much more NLH than LH these days? Do you prefer NLH now or is there more profitable opportunities in NLH these days?

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I think I make more money at NL overall, but I do still play both for sure.

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Stox, a LHE master/guru, recently just switched to NL and he's already making "more money at NL overall".

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Hey Stox,

First of all thanks for the site. It's been a great help to my game and worth every penny.

I have an odd question that I have been wondering for quite some time.

If you or someone of your caliber were to play at a 3/6 6max LHE game vs a group of winning players, say a group of regular 3/6 2+2 folks, do you think that you would be able to make a profit? If so what would you guess your BB/100 would be?

Just curious since the % of rake is higher than in high limit games if you feel that an elite player would be able to exploit their weaknesses enough to overcome the rake.

Hope my question makes sense.

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your question makes plenty sense. I think against 5 good regulars at 3/6 max I would certainly have a tough time overcoming the rake AND turning a good profit. I would guess my winrate in that game would be .1-.6bb/100 assuming a reasonable rake.

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Stox admits that he would have a tough time turning a profit at small stakes limit hold'em vs 5 regulars. This obviously has a lot to do with rake, but once again it comes down to the difference in skill level being less in limit. While small stakes limit hold'em players are breaking even/barely making a profit/making most of their money off rakeback, small stakes NL players are doubling up once and making what a small stakes NL player makes in a day, maybe two.

Top LHE players would be lucky to make $1 million a year while top NL players are making $1 million a month. Limit is so bottle-necked. It's like me trying to win a fight with just punches, when I have Mixed Martial Arts/Grappling experience, what's the point?

If you go to a casino, and there are 9 high vpip donks at a NL table, and 9 high vpip donks at LHE table, where do you honestly think you're going to win most of your hands?

So...Why Limit?