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Old 11-02-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Contraversial AC Related Thread (TL;PR)

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Its funny that you come this far and stop. If you want decentralization then why not go down to the individual? That would be the most accountability, the most control over the purse strings, and the largest that each voice gets to be in the mob.

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Quite simply because there is nothing about humanity or the environment that makes living as an individual "best" in basically any sense.

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This is the hermitization canard. Retaining autonomy does not mean you have to live as an individual. People can voluntarily work and live together while retaining full autonomy.

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Yes, and if you think that "voluntarily working and living together" is congruous with "retaining full autonomy" I'd say you are living in fantasy land.

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I did not say it IS congruous. I said it need not be.

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Unless by "autonomy" you simply mean "makes choices and have to deal with results which may often be quite negative and involve being ostracized by the group".

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Again, autonomy doesn't mean you get what you want, and the outcomes you want. That's a uselessly trivial definition of the word. Ostracized people retain autonomy. Autonomy doesn't provide you with an entitlement to interact with OTHER PEOPLE, since they are also presumably autonomous.
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