[craig1120]

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people tend not to go to a cheap showdown on this board too often because they'll just muck lower pair 77 stuff on JTx boards vs an UTG raiser. so they'll have a lot of draw type stuff or top pairs that all usually bet the turn. for this reason i usually check/jam the turn (he's not folding QJ on this board i don't think).

river is a bet and it's not even close and i'd bet big. you guys that only bet this card when you are bluffing are pretty easy to play against

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i agree that the river is a bet and it's not close

i disagree about crai, i think it goes check check FAR too often because that line has become fairly transparent

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word. I need a read before I'm trying to c/push the turn bc when it gets checked through you lose a lot of value.