[elstunar]

seriously, if you put them on set/2-pair, raise flop and it's not close, they aren't folding and you get all their monies most of the time...8 or K on turn is scary, 4 to a straight on the board...and then you're fold on the turn was pretty bad too, you would have to have a sick read to fold that by putting them solely on a boat and since you're not that deep it's pretty bad